Federal Employees Sue Trump For Forcing Them To Work Without Pay

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  • Published: 16 January 2019
  • A group of federal employees are suing the Trump administration over the shutdown, arguing that the fact they still have to work but can’t be paid is a violation of the 13th Amendment that effectively abolished slavery in the United States. Previous lawsuits from federal workers during government shutdowns have been successful, and this lawsuit will likely see similar results. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses the suit and the possible outcomes.
     
    Link – https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/14/compelled-work-without-pay-federal-employees-sue-trump-violating-th-amendment/?utm_term=.5fa9e8a72ebd

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    *This transcript was generated by a third-party transcription software company, so please excuse any typos.

    Lawsuits are piling up right now against the Trump administration and the bosses who are currently forcing their employees to work without pay. Now, these are the furlough government workers who have been affected by this partial government shutdown, who are being coerced and forced to work their current jobs without pay. Now again, this does not cover all of the 800,000 furloughed workers. Some of them were immediately just sent home, deemed quote, non essential, but those essential folks, the people who the government can't function without. Those are the ones who are told. If you don't show up, you are fired and when you do show up, do not expect to get paid for the time that you're working. And according to the latest lawsuit, this is a clear violation of the 13th amendment which abolished slavery here in the United States. A group of federal workers is now suing the Trump administration and the people that they work for within the federal government for forcing them to work without pay, which they say in the lawsuit.

    The argument is that this amounts to involuntary servitude to their employer because again, their employers have issued warnings. If you don't come in, if you call out sick, don't ever come back because you're fired. So they are forcing these people to go into work. They know that these people will not be paid for the work that they are performing. And that is what spawned this particular lawsuit so far. This one is the only lawsuit to invoke the 13th amendment argument. And to be honest, that's going to be a very difficult one to prove. As the Supreme Court back in 1988 actually ruled that forcing a mentally ill people in the United States to work without pay, uh, did not violate the 13th amendment even though the people were threatened with if you work, either you work without pay or we put you in a mental institution because you're mentally ill, that somehow didn't violate the 13th amendment.

    So these workers have a very tall uphill battle ahead of them, um, that they likely may not win at this case. However, there are plenty of other law suits right now that are pretty much 100 percent going to be successful brought by furloughed federal workers who are working without pay. Obviously this does violate wage and hour laws here in the United States. It's happened during every other government shutdown and pretty much every other time the furloughed workers who worked without pay have been successful, in fact so successful that the government actually has a fund set up that is designed to pay out these lawsuits brought by furloughed federal workers because they know they're going to lose and they want to have this pot of money ready to go when the lawsuits inevitably come. But this one, however, about the 13th amendment is special. Again, the only one to invoke invoke the 13th amendment, but also because if it's successful, this would effectively ban any furloughed worker essential or not essential from being able to work during a government shutdown, which means again, if this lawsuit were to be successful, the next time the government shuts down.

Comments • 1 165

  • Magdalis Almodovar
    Magdalis Almodovar  3 months back

    The only thing this mad man 45 is money ,and hell with everyone else..if he doesn't pay his own Bill's, do think he cares about the people in this country, no he doesn't, it's all about him n his pockets full of money . Hes a selfish, heartless man ..

    • Elvis
      Elvis  3 months back

      If Federal employees sued the government. They are sueing us, because we pay taxes. So, pretty much we are fighting against ourselves.

      • Elvis
        Elvis  3 months back

        Trump , wants to destroy America, he doesn't care about America. He needs to be taken down. He is the enemy. The military sworned to protect America from foreign or domestic enemies.

        • Rodney Brooks
          Rodney Brooks  3 months back

          Trump has killed the Republican Party. 🤣

          • Fritz Fondona
            Fritz Fondona  3 months back

            Sue the pants off the tangerine turd.
            Republicans BELIEVE that everyone is subject to 'Gods economic plan'.
            That means slavery is an acceptable product of Republican greed.
            Ralph Reed.
            “Of course, slavery was abolished in this country many years ago, so we must apply these principles to the way Americans work today, to employees and employers: Christians have a responsibility to submit to the authority of their employers, since they are designated as part of God’s plan for the exercise of authority on the earth by man.”

            First Amendment anyone?

            • yaoiis4life
              yaoiis4life  3 months back

              Why doesn't everyone just not go to work lol 😂 they would start it right back up

              • ICENOVA
                ICENOVA  3 months back

                How is this even an option shutdown that force people to work without pay

                • BUBBA Gum
                  BUBBA Gum  3 months back

                  How ya'll like him now, ur President 😁😁

                  • JeffTheWinner
                    JeffTheWinner  3 months back

                    Well it looks like the Republican Reich wing is starting to crumble!

                    • Zodi
                      Zodi  3 months back

                      Slavery My Nigga Tf🤣

                      • Rasteen Jackson
                        Rasteen Jackson  3 months back

                        Dumb ass folks dont realize that in a few years their positions will be taken by immigrants!!! No even to mention the future of our youth not getting positions because of illegals!!!

                        • Jevon Jackson
                          Jevon Jackson  3 months back

                          Three things the federal workers can do.
                          1. Sue the Trump Administration for pain and suffering and no pay.
                          2. Protest and shame the trump administration for being lazy and useless.
                          3. The man Trump and his administration all go to prison for life general population no special treatment.
                          Just my opinion America.

                          • Clydes Winfield
                            Clydes Winfield  3 months back

                            They should do a Class Action Lawsuit where all 800,000 workers will get paid! They got 2 grounds to sue on! #1 Violation of the13th Ammendment! #2 Wrongful Termination! Good Luck&Blessings!

                            • Clydes Winfield
                              Clydes Winfield  3 months back

                              The 13th Ammendment is not the only Ammendment Trump has violated! I'm glad they're suing the crook! If the rest of Federal American Workers were as smart as these Ch(Trump) wouldn't be in the White House this long to ruin America! True Americans cannot sit back and watch Trump do this to America! Take Action! He must be Stopped!

                              • Kit snow
                                Kit snow  3 months back

                                Sue the trump administration including the big baby.

                                • Kit snow
                                  Kit snow  3 months back

                                  I think this is categorized as slavery-sue them or throw them in jail.

                                  • Dark VadeR
                                    Dark VadeR  3 months back

                                    Illegal as hell! But Trump don't give a rats ass! Look what happened to Trump University. This Administration is a failure

                                    • aspookyfox
                                      aspookyfox  3 months back

                                      Nine-eleven part two.

                                      • fireball39279
                                        fireball39279  3 months back

                                        If this happens in China. Holy fuck! you American MFs will scream like bitches. Am I right MFS?? Now, taste your own medicine, America. I'm so happy to see this shit happening to you morons. You aholes voted for a Chump now you got a Chump. Therefore, shut up and starve. The world is laughing at you morons. Chump, please keep shutting the government down and kill your own people. Enjoy it!

                                        • John
                                          John  3 months back

                                          Fuck the so called Federal workers

                                          • Gaisa Forwarding
                                            Gaisa Forwarding  3 months back

                                            Mexico wouldn't pay Trump for his wall....so now he's making American workers work for free..... Yup, he cares

                                            • J Remeliik
                                              J Remeliik  3 months back

                                              The greatest president ever

                                              • Veda Morris-Reid
                                                Veda Morris-Reid  3 months back

                                                They have money,they are safe,So why would they care,they are showing us right damn now. 😤

                                                • fatis dead
                                                  fatis dead  3 months back

                                                  Real patriots work for free when their duty calls upon them. Fuck the federal workers who are suing the hand that feeds them. Send them to the modern gulags. Suck on it Cousins!

                                                  • joe dell
                                                    joe dell  3 months back

                                                    Nobody represents the feelings and ideas of the right better than Trump: homophobic, xenophobic, macho recalcitrant, ignorant, incompetent, an idiot
                                                    https://iberomagazine.com/2018/10/15/can-we-afford-universal-health-care-for-all/

                                                    • Brent P
                                                      Brent P  3 months back

                                                      TELL THEM: "FUCK YOU, PAY ME!"

                                                      • Nick S
                                                        Nick S  3 months back

                                                        Fucking libtards cone to your senses

                                                        • Nick S
                                                          Nick S  3 months back

                                                          Sue him what about paloci trying to take airforce bus and flight on tax payers money, instead of working to finish this shit... trump has donated everyone of his pay check sense our president became.....

                                                          • eliza t
                                                            eliza t  3 months back

                                                            Trump is going to drag the Unitedstatians down . Economy this going to be at It's worst.

                                                            • Brandon Payton-Coons
                                                              Brandon Payton-Coons  3 months back

                                                              Am I in charge yet

                                                              • Jack The Ripper
                                                                Jack The Ripper  3 months back

                                                                GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! 😘😁😁😁

                                                                • Jack The Ripper
                                                                  Jack The Ripper  3 months back

                                                                  I'm hard af just from the JOY! AYEEEE, how does it feel, POTS?! I popcorn for what's coming.

                                                              • Jack The Ripper
                                                                Jack The Ripper  3 months back

                                                                Bwahhagahahaaaaaaa let the planes circle around to throw them off!

                                                                • Charles Ramsey
                                                                  Charles Ramsey  3 months back

                                                                  Do it stop everything now dont wait

                                                                  • Charles Ramsey
                                                                    Charles Ramsey  3 months back

                                                                    Fuck it let the caravan peaple in and give them a ride to white house

                                                                    • Darius McCaskill
                                                                      Darius McCaskill  3 months back

                                                                      I think it's funny how the Republicans have control of ALL 3 branches of government, yet it's still shutdown lmfao

                                                                      • ANGE'LL LOVATO
                                                                        ANGE'LL LOVATO  3 months back

                                                                        But hold up...lmao....is he not the great white man that they voted for to make to make white amerikkka great again..lmao..this should be a very good lesson learned...

                                                                        • ThoughtsBecomeThings
                                                                          ThoughtsBecomeThings  3 months back

                                                                          That is slavery

                                                                          • sid roth
                                                                            sid roth  3 months back

                                                                            These people are not forced to work without pay ! They will get paid sooner or later ! Quit lying ! If these workers don't want to work then they should quit !

                                                                            • Guero Rodriguez
                                                                              Guero Rodriguez  3 months back

                                                                              Impeach trump

                                                                              • Katmandoo
                                                                                Katmandoo  3 months back

                                                                                get rid of the fat bloated government we never needed in the 1st place..

                                                                                • Paul Sheppard
                                                                                  Paul Sheppard  3 months back

                                                                                  Now they see why Colin Kaepernick took a knee.

                                                                                  • Paul Sheppard
                                                                                    Paul Sheppard  3 months back

                                                                                    Hey but look on the bright side you still got your guns.

                                                                                    • diegoreds
                                                                                      diegoreds  3 months back

                                                                                      If Anyone gives in to Trump “Master Deal Maker,” for anything. What stops him Doing it Again to Get His Way? If this Protection established by Obama Trump would get rid it.

                                                                                      • Philip Mclaughlin
                                                                                        Philip Mclaughlin  3 months back

                                                                                        Air traffic would hault because air traffic controllers would not show up to work

                                                                                        • Burako Shimazaki
                                                                                          Burako Shimazaki  3 months back

                                                                                          You know you can volunteer to work.

                                                                                          • Zatzzo
                                                                                            Zatzzo  3 months back

                                                                                            Most unamerican president ever

                                                                                            • EllBee Calkins
                                                                                              EllBee Calkins  3 months back

                                                                                              As long as they have military personnel, chances of flights not happening are slim. The used Military personnel in the early to mid-80’s to fill in for striking air traffic controllers.

                                                                                              • zack budde
                                                                                                zack budde  3 months back

                                                                                                If they're still able to quit, can it really be considered *forced* or *involuntary* labor?

                                                                                                Are their contracts something other than at-will employment?